Curse

828168 · Dec 21, 2005, 04:35 AM // 04:35

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Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

Here's how I look at it, when people were buying the axes, they were gambling. You were saying, "Hey, I can buy the axe now, pay maybe 200K for it, then when it gets nerfed, I can sell it again for like 2 million." That was your choice, you would have to be foolish not to have figured out that Anet would nerf this item, so you were obviously hoping that you could take advantage of the removal of the item to make some extra caught.

Guess what? You lost your bet.

To those who are crying for compensation, please, first off, Anet has no way of knowing how much you paid for the axe, so they can't very well just give you a bunch of money for the item. Second, nobody forced you to buy the axe, you bought it of your own free will with your own money, with full knowledge that the axe was bugged, and with full knowledge that Anet would nerf it, eventually. You have no one to blame but yourself.

Rico

Very well said. That is one of the best explanation for those buyers.

Salia Mare · Dec 21, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Too bad, I'd fun doing a solo monk with that +40%in UW, nearly remind me of the 17prot of old times ^^, not as efficient but those run with +40% were so fast and easy ^^
Btw i loose lot of ecto to made up my axe but i d't care, i'd fun time with it in UW, too short time that's it but even so, that's an abuse item anyway (they could have remove 1 of the 2 upgrade :/ now even NPC d't want the axe lol )

Banebow · Dec 21, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

The item was obviously overpowered. ANet removed the item to prevent overpowered PvE characters from going into PvP. So, the game gets balanced for the better, and people complain. Next time, consider if what you are about to spend 200k on is overpowered, and likely to get removed, before you buy it. I really have no sympathy for those who lost money, they tried to abuse a bug.

Stealthy Trapper · Dec 21, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

for those complaining about anet not removing the HoD sword....................HoD sword = +5 energy bonus(no bug).....................SoA axe = 2 grips(BUG) .........they fixed a bug, they did not nerf anything.......lol

FFF_WarRaven · Dec 21, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

yeah the hammer was nerfed, and btw, it's anets fault in the first place for putting them their like that, how long were thoses items in the game? did they even inspect their own stuff? People keep finding mistakes they made and using them to their advantage, so everytime someone finds something to gain any kind of advantage, they say hey buddy screw you, noone makes us look bad and gets away with it. This was not a so called bug, it was human error, call it stupidity, incompentance or just plain old lazyness, shrugs, god syndrome? had several clean items like this good thing i did nothing with them nore bought anything for such a redicuals price, tho i kinda glad they did something about i think they went the wrong way with what they did.

:::ENd Transmission:::

Phades · Dec 21, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Stealthy Trapper

for those complaining about anet not removing the HoD sword....................HoD sword = +5 energy bonus(no bug).....................SoA axe = 2 grips(BUG) .........they fixed a bug, they did not nerf anything.......lol

They did find the need to remove the ability to aquire it for anyone not fortunate enough to begin playing when they were around. The real argument is, why cant wands have mods? There in lies your answer as to why the same style of fix should be applied to the HOD sword.

828168 · Dec 21, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by kvndoom

I don't think compensation, but at the very least, one of the mods should have remained and been salvageable. The people who got screwed were the buyers, not the sellers. The sellers can laugh all the way to the bank, the buyers get to look at a useless item in their inventory. Who's to say that one group of people is guilty and not the other? One group sought to exploit the game mechanics; one group sought to exploit other people. One group has nothing to show for it, one group is rich. Fair?

Unfortunately, it's fair. I classified the sellers as non guilty and buyers as guilty. Sellers took advantage of a market opportunity. In real life, you don't get compensated for losing money gambling due to greed. I don't see people who lost money in stock market (esp. dot com era) gets a refund or reward. They get stock certificates that can be used as toilet paper. Same thing what you end up with if you bought the axe hype. The item becomes something as useful as toilet paper.

jet_striker · Dec 21, 2005, 04:41 AM // 04:41

So since the HOD sword cant be found anymore of the Rockmolder cant be found anywhere is for what reason.... why cant they be found anymore

bc they were bugged items the the devs messed up on... right

This is the same thing but with a much more overpowerd weapon

I would love to buy a HOD sword for 150K but its not gonna happen
I wanted to get rich like all those lucky ass new players who started the game and had like 5 HOD's in stock

Thats never gonna happen

The HOD sword and Rockmolder got nerfed the axe got deleted...
The HOD sword is better than any other sword out there... cant be found anymore, so Do what u did to the Axe

Its a FRAEKING GAME, BUT WOW DOES IT EVER PISS ME OFF
did waste a lot of money on it.
But they should have done a better job fixing the proplem.

Vilaptca · Dec 21, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by Arwen Dejang

Please Read:

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

Then Read: (Note rule 18)

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

Ok for those of you that dont wish to read it is illegal as in bad no cookie to use exploits, to sell exploits, heck to even mention exploits except directly to GuildWars.com. Wow.. so what does this mean? It means that they dont have to pay you back, they should ban you if you participated, and that you seem to show a lack of caring about the rules. Yea some people are just so mature. Anyway heres the info use it in anyway you would like.

Awww you beat me to it. Whiners be happy you weren't banned. I would imagine if this bug hadn't become so largely available and so many people exploiting it, that we would have seen bans.

Monica Angelina · Dec 21, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

If I ever get banned, I'd just ask for my money back.

828168 · Dec 21, 2005, 04:47 AM // 04:47

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

Awww you beat me to it. Whiners be happy you weren't banned. I would imagine if this bug hadn't become so largely available and so many people exploiting it, that we would have seen bans.

So true... They have every rights to ban users but chose to do it gracefully by not doing so but fixing a bug. I'm actually grateful for them and we all should be grateful they haven't banned those accounts that participated in a major exploitation of the game.

Ultimate Warrior · Dec 21, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Congtratulations to everyone who spent a bunch of money. You now have a 300k peice of crap, if you know what I mean.

828168 · Dec 21, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

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Originally Posted by Monica Angelina

If I ever get banned, I'd just ask for my money back.

lol. If that was only possible... Trust me, I've tried asking for refunds for online games before. Even filed a BBB complaint and all. But to no avail. Unless you want to spend more money to sue em'.

Wyett · Dec 21, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

First of all, there are tons of people willing to rip you off. A guy started selling the axe in L.A. about 4 days ago, I asked him how much, he said 40 k, and i asked where he got it, he said "From Beta, they don't make them anymore", and then, I realized he was lying. Another guy said he crafted the axe but wouldn't say where the collector was. Another said it was from a critter drop. Eventually I found out the truth. I had offers to buy the axe, sell my axe grips, so forth.. So many people were willing to rip off other people which is disappointing in its own right. The clown who said he sold his axe knowing it was getting nerfed to make a profit, just makes him less of a player and more of a scammer.

Those who exploited the bug deserve to lose their items and/or their money. So, for most of yall, quit your whining and do something more than scam people, and those who lost your money, quit your whining and quit trying to abuse a bug that was obviously unintentional and unbalanced. I hope yall learn how to be players and not exploiters.

The Theologist

lishi · Dec 21, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56

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Originally Posted by 828168

So true... They have every rights to ban users but chose to do it gracefully by not doing so but fixing a bug. I'm actually grateful for them and we all should be grateful they haven't banned those accounts that participated in a major exploitation of the game.

while im happy the nerfed the axe(even if i got 2 of them , 50k not biggie) they didn't not banned people cos anet is full of nice ppl...

the reason is more like , "while i have to fix this bug i should avoid to upset ppl more than the neccesary so they will buy chap 2"

Wyett · Dec 21, 2005, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by lishi

while im happy the nerfed the axe(even if i got 2 of them , 50k not biggie) they didn't not banned people for they good hearth...

the reason is more like , "while i have to fix this bug i should avoid to upset ppl more than the neccesary so they will buy chap 2"

Hardly, I can guarantee you, chapter 2 of this game was not a consideration for not banning people. Some of you lack business knowledge, some of you have it, and the rest just have no knowledge at all. Think about it, PLAYERS exploited an UNINTENTIONAL bug, a glitch, an error, what ever you want to call it. If you've ever worked on a spreadsheet with 40,000 cells of data, or worked in programming with hundreds of thousands of lines of characters, or if you've ever worked anywhere that wasn't called Mc Donalds and Burger King, you'd know that mistakes do happen. Sorry, forgetting to put meat on a burger isn't in the same category as numbers and characters.

Quit whining folks, you're beating a dead cow. If you're that upset, write Anet and tell them you tried to cheat their system and tell them how to fix it by sending them the proper code, other wise just stfu and play.

Jormund · Dec 21, 2005, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by kunt0r

Anyone who bought the axe's knew they were exploiting the game and deserved to lose all the money they spent on them. I agree with their patch methods 100%.

/signed

Also good job on GotW Kuntz.

NowTumi · Dec 21, 2005, 06:20 AM // 06:20

good job, a-net

Obsidian Flame · Dec 21, 2005, 07:12 AM // 07:12

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Originally Posted by Ajora

Anyone who bought the axe deserves it. They were attempting to abuse an exploit. And those who sold their axes...well..they exploited the exploiters. Seems like justice to me.

So true. Well, to all the complainers: YOU EARNED IT!

Racthoh · Dec 21, 2005, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Good work Anet, just too bad you'll have to hear all of this nonsense for fixing a problem. From the sounds of it though, it seems as though players would rather play a game full of exploits and bugs.